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- 16 mars 2014 à 11h01 #14397016 mars 2014 à 11h01 #156635
Hello,
firstly, I apologize for writing in English, but I do not want to humiliate myself with my ridiculous French. Given that I still have a lot to learn, I would be very grateful if someone would consider reading a F rench grammar. I mean of course one that is in the public domain. Although the more recent, the better – I think that a 16th or 17th century grammar would a bit too much:D
So if you know of any good grammarians who had been dead for seventy years or so, I think it would a real bonanza for all us French-learners to get an audiobook of their works on the French grammar. And I think it would be great if that included a conjugation of the French verbs. I know this would be very dull for the narrator, but I think it would be really useful for non-French listeners to be able to hear, for example, Passe simple or Subjonctif imparfait spoken out loud. It would help us to recognize and understand them in the narration much more quickly, and with enough of practice, this would make it easier for us to understand and enjoy your wonderful readings. It would be a really good practice in the skill of audiobook listening.
Alternatively, if you know of any blogs with French grammar and verbs conjucation podcasts, I would be very glad of any suggestions.
Thank you all for your great, great work here!
18 mars 2014 à 9h55 #156639Greetings, Mimimi and welcome to our little group ! …to our quite large group actually ! lol
First of all, no need to apologize, as far as I am concerned : your interest more than makes up for your lack of knowledge and we all have to begin somewhere, after all. You know, even I was not born speaking French : it took me the first three years of my life 😉 lol
Your suggestion is of course excellent. I consulted our entire catalogue and unfortunately could not find any audio books of a grammatical nature. All I noticed was the following entry in our suggestions page : « DIVERS – Cours de français audio ». Regrettably, no one amongst our body of volunteer readers has picked up on this yet.
I used to do a lot of French tutoring myself on the Pal Talk chat system and have a lot of experience in that, enough to tell you that there is never anything boring about disseminating one’s language and culture to others, no matter how basic the subject. I would gladly record such an audio book myself, assuming we could indeed find some material in the public domain, except that right now, I am heavily involved in a long project : reading the French translation of Washington Irving’s sketch book. I shall nevertheless try to keep your suggestion in mind for a potential future project.
In the meantime, Mimimi, may I present you with the following internet sites which you might find useful :
1) http://www.francaisfacile.com/
2) http://www.lefrancaispourtous.com/ This one apparently has audio recordings that you can listen to.
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz82bVszdmo This one is quite curious and interesting because it could acquaint you with the version of French spoken where I live : québécois, or Canadian French, if you prefer 😉 :-)
4) http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~weinberg/french.html
5) http://www.languageguide.org/french/readings/ This one allows you to follow a text along, listening while you read, with the possibility of interrupting or repeating the audio file at leisure.
There you go.
I trust and hope that you will find something of interest in this selection. If you do, I should be very interested in obtaining your feedback on this.
Bonne chance !
take care,
jf24 mars 2014 à 19h54 #156644Thank you for answering, choriste! I'll check out the sites you suggested. Especially the ones from “la belle province” 😀 Do you also know any sites on French as spoken in Acadie?
I'll try to see if I can look up any grammars myself. In fact, perhaps a proper, highly specialized grammar would be over and above my requirements – I think that a simple school primer (for French children) would be sufficient. I'll try to find some that are in public domain. I think old, antiquated grammar books and textbooks can be very lovely, to look at and to read, and there's none of that forced down-with-the-kids hippness you get in many modern language courses and school grammars.And of course, the grammar itself doesn't change. 😀 In fact, it is based on oral language, conjugation in particular, which is why I think a spoken-word grammar would be useful. I know that when I'm revising verbs it always helps to sound them out in my head. Because even the literary forms originated from spoken language, didn't they? And I find it easier to learn them aurally, rather than slogging through Bescherelle :C
Anyway, thanks for taking your time and advising me, and for taking my suggestion into consideation!
2 avril 2014 à 9h20 #156682Not at all, Mimimi, or : ça m’a fait plaisir ! …like we say here :-)
I am sorry to report, and perhaps even a bit ashamed to admit, that I know of no sites for Acadian French. Surely, with a bit of patience, you should be able to Google one, or even many. Their style of French is indeed very interesting, from a linguistic point of view, because it harkens back to an even truer form of ” Old French ” than ours, here, in Québec. For a sampler of this, I recommend to you the now-famous prose of « la sagouine », written by Antonine Maillet, relating the life of an elderly charwoman.
Yeah…you should be able to easily locate free and legal older grammar books and, indeed, the language has not changed that much, much less than English, imho. For example, although Shakespearian English requires a primer to be able to follow along, one can still easily understand Molière’s plays, using modern French ( Shakespeare preceded Molière only by a couple of decades ). And… yes… having to constantly look it up in the Bescherelle quickly becomes a pain in the neck, but, you know, I still often have to resort to that myself ! I have heard it said that French possesses 46 conjugations …instead of the 5, in Esperanto ;-)
To alleviate my previously-confessed shame about lack of knowledge of Acadian sites, I spent a lot of time tonight scanning the Internet. Google, as usual, could “only” come up with a mere 5,330,000 sites about Acadia and the Acadians lol So, it will be for you to go through them now, depending on your particular field of interest 😉 Myself, I am into Acadian language and history, but you may have other interests 🙂 …how to cook a great lobster, for example lol …and , of course, there is also the lovely epic poem ” Evangeline “, by the American poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. …whatever turns you on ! …it’s all up to you !
Once again, thank you for your interest in our culture.
I sincerely hope you eventually find what you are looking for.
take care and a+ !
( a+ is the modern internet chat abbreviation for : à la prochaine 😉 )
amicalement,
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